May have a magazine spring problem?

I know exactly what you're talking about.

My 30-06 holds 5 rounds with one of them in the tube. I was having this problem, but I figured out if I only put 3 in the mag and one in the tube, I don't have a problem.......so that's how I've solved it.

I never take more than 2 shots at a time anyways, so it isn't bothering me that its a 4 shot gun now.

Parker

 

Yeah, when I shoot at the range I ussually only shoot 3 shot groups, so it's not that big of an issue. I haven't really looked at it close enough to figure out the exact problem. I started to the other night and that's when I lost the part.

 

I had a Savage .22/250 that had issues similar to yours, I swapped the follower around backwards and tried that, it seemed to help. You might give that a try when you get it back together. Or, you might try tweaking the sheetmetal magazine lips a little(!) bit, as a last resort.

Any Savage shooter than hasn't lost the extractor ball bearing isn't cleaning his bolt enough . I've lost two, over the years myself, usually when replacing extractors. Savage turned loose a bunch of bad extractors for awhile, too, so when I got ambitious enough to do something about it, I lost the ball bearing......... A phone call to Savage's parts department got me another bb, and a new extractor, too.

 

Sounds like a spring problem to me too...Being a 110 it is a long action so that could also be an issue because of the length of travel for the bolt but, I would bet spring.

 

Modified the post above as this not a long action, but a short action. I was thinking the long actions were model 111 and shorts where 110. It's actually a model 11, not 110.

 

[rquote=1933991&tid=134663&author=golfnut1969]Modified the post above as this not a long action, but a short action. I was thinking the long actions were model 111 and shorts where 110. It's actually a model 11, not 110.
[/rquote]ok that leaves out the long feed issue, I am down to spring now.

 

go to savage shooters. com those savage nuts can help you out http://www.savageshooters.com/SavageForum/index.php

 

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Walk down the street and let Frank look at it. I would think a mag feed problem/ramp.

 

[rquote=1934165&tid=134663&author=SNA2STL]Walk down the street and let Frank look at it. I would think a mag feed problem/ramp.[/rquote]

I've dealt with Frank once and that was enough. I'll drive to Silex and work with the gunsmith there. He's great.

 

Video Added

I've posted a video here of the problem.

http://cid-3af10f561048f38e.photos....om/self.aspx/Savage 223 Problem/Savage223Problem.wmv?wa=wsignin1.0&sa=731056508

 

Assuming proper assembly, mag box lips would be the first thing I attacked, and checking the follower spring second.

 

Parkers problem is the one I have always seen. Especially on the stevens 200. If you fill the magazine, it smashes the spring and weakens it, causing feed issues. So I always put three in the magazine, and one in the chamber. Seems to always work justy fine.

 

I shot about 39 rounds thru my Savage 111 GCNS 7mm-08 at the Rifle range in October with no problems or issues....when I went out during Deer Season this year I noticed the gun didn't allow another round to be put into the chamber after I shot a Doe saturday morning....I found out later on after field dressing the Deer and when I got back to Camp I was going to un-load the Rifle?I first removed the clip then went to eject the last shell and there wasn't another round in the chamber...good thing I didn't need a follow-up shot?:mad2:


Then later on that same week after using my gun several times (not shooting it)...just loading and un-loading it with no problems I was out hunting in my stand again friday evening...I had a nice Buck come in and I shot him and he dropped in his tracks.....as soon as I shot him I ejected my shell and rechamber the next round...so I thought I did,again it didn't put another round into the chamber and I didn't notice it until I removed the clip at Camp and tried to eject the last round in the chamber when I found out it didn't allow another round to go in?



Now Usually I watch when I eject a shell out of my Rifle and put another one in to my Rifle but when I'm actually shooting at a Deer I keep my eye on what I have shot at and I don't take my eyes off the Deer so thats why I didn't really notice a potential problem and I've been so busy I never gave it another thought but I think I had better address this problem! :thinking: :shrug:

 

[rquote=1939125&tid=134663&author=Chad]Parkers problem is the one I have always seen. Especially on the stevens 200. If you fill the magazine, it smashes the spring and weakens it, causing feed issues. So I always put three in the magazine, and one in the chamber. Seems to always work justy fine.[/rquote]

I haven't used the gun that much, so I've only had it out maybe 6 or 7 where I had the magazine full for more than an hour. And of those times, the gun was never loaded for more than 7 hours, if even. If I put three in the magazine and one in the chamber, I would have the problem as it's the 1st and 3rd round (from the bottom of the magazine) that cause the problems. The only option here would be to put 2 rounds in the mag and 1 in the chamber, but only the 1st round from the magazine would load. Make sense?

 

My Savage holds 1 in the chamber and 3 in the clip...I always load the first one by hand/fingers in the chamber then I put in the clip with the 3 other shells.If I would have had to take a follow-up shot this year at any of the Deer I had first shot at I probably would not have gotten another chance if it didn't chamber another shell...I would have been pretty mad if that would have happened?Good thing I'm such an excellent Marksmen/Sharpshooter...? :thinking: :rof2: :shrug:


I did notice that the clip is made a little strange...it tappers up smaller like a trianglular shape,not like any of the clips in my Browning or Remington Rifles?I guess a little oil may help it some...that or I could call or e-mail Savage and see what their thoughts were on the subject....that will give me an idea of how well they stand behind their products and their Customer Service? :thinking:

 

Internal mag in this gun, so I have to load the mag first.